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Thursday, February 23, 2006  

emergent church question


over on theOoze someone posed some questions about Emergent Church Leadership and I was the first person to post. Below is my reply with a few of their questions in bold. Uh...be warned I was feeling very cheeky!

I am wondering what an emergent/missional church leader looks like.

mostly a white male, in their early to mid-30s. A cooler haircut than your average joe-pastor type. They wear jeans and khakis with a variety of shirt styles. Maybe a piercing or two (well, at least one you can see.) They might have a visible tatoo, something spiritual in meaning than your run of the mill "I Love Mom." Probably wear cons or vans or flops or sneaks or yeah, we get the picture. They smell of Starbucks...or the local tavern (a far more pleasing aroma)...

I typed in "emergent church leader" into google image search and got this:


I dunno ;) (yes, I'm being cheeky..cause it's sooo fun!) :D

you're probably looking for something less to do with image and more to do with substance. I'd say they really aren't much different from others, only that they dress a bit different, think further outside the box, don't have rigorous schedule, and talk more about incarnational living, being authentic, and helping people figuring out Christ than Christ saving people...

How is that person different from a modern pastor?

this is what I got for "modern pastor" from google:


lol...very different...

Also I have been thinking about the mission of the emergent church, does anyone have any ideas on how that could be worded?

angry white children of the evangelical church

actually an authentic emergent church would be Christianity sans chicanery (I'm trademarking that as I speak!)

I'm looking for information on any emergent church leadership ideas. Where do I look?

check out all the normal leadership texts and just soup em up

seriously there is really nothing new about the emergent church, nor so different that we can't use normal texts to help out

Andy Stanley's Next Generation Leader is great, but nothing new.

Leonard Sweet's Summoned to Lead is also good (and more acceptable in an Emergent Church gathering...because they screen your books for the cool factor) but again, nothing new here.

I hope I've helped...but probably not. Welcome to our happy Oozian place. I'm the resident emergent church skeptic and sorry you ran into me first. But seriously, you can learn a lot from the people here. Just hang around and see what we're screaming about :D

dang, I'm in a cheeky mood tonight ;)

posted by Preachin Jesus | 9:05 PM
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Reflections on Faith Struggles


Recently I've been reading much of Dietrich Bonhoeffer particularly his excellent text, The Cost of Discipleship. One point of faith that he points out is a phrase "Only those who believe obey, and only those who obey believe" and begins hashing this out as an appropriate banner for discipleship and spiritual growth in the Christian life. I was quite captured by this thought over the last several days and have begun to examine this in my life and the lives of many with whom I counsel and convo.

How often has someone come to me and said they aren't getting anything out of church or a small group they are attending. I've sometimes said "Just come and listen" or "study harder", something like that which neither answers their real query, commits me to some action, or edifies them in their time of struggle. As Bonhoeffer points out often people in our pews, chairs, or couches are struggling not with the availability to hear, but from letting go of some area of sin in their lives. To have ourselves committed to Christ is every area of our lives is the foundation for continuing to grow in our faith in Him.

Part of Bonhoeffer's point here is that faith and obedience work simultaneously in the life of the believer. When Christ calls someone from their boat to follow Him it is their faith and obedience working side by side which promulgates them into the disciples' life. It is through the denial of the flesh and committal to total reliance on Christ through the recognition of His ways, will, and word that we find ourselves at the doorway to discipleship. I am utterly amazed at the gracious work of God through a servant such as Deitrich Bonhoeffer.

posted by Preachin Jesus | 2:38 PM
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Reposting


Over the next couple of weeks I'm going to deleting some old posts, compressing my archive, and reposting some oldies (and others that might be goodies...but are more likely oldies.)

posted by Preachin Jesus | 12:58 PM
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006  

Quick Hits



  • There's a lot of crazy stuff going on around the SBC these days...I really must say that I just don't care.
  • Biggest lesson learned in the last six months: How you treat people says volumes about you and your ministry.
  • I'm trying to get my fingers around some new blogger code and fancy up my template here.
  • Spent some time up at Lifeway HQ sometime in the last several weeks and found some wonderful people doing good things. However (there is that however!) I am curious if the main aim of the organization is to build the education ministry of a local SBC church or stock shelves in its bookstores.
  • The more I engage those within the Emergent Church the more I realize they really are the "angry white kids" of the evangelical church in the US, really where are the minorities.
  • A new life principle in ministry: Nothing is a done deal in the church until you get your check.

well that's enough for now. I'll be back more and more hopefully. I need to blog more!

posted by Preachin Jesus | 1:54 PM
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